![]() ![]() crickets, so I was like, 'Listen, before this season airs - 'cause we all know that that can kind of create its own little vortex and make things worse - let's get dinner and catch up.'" Something had to change, and then it was several months of awkwardness, like, 'Hey, buddy! Happy New Year!' And then. "It was awkward leading up to the summer, it was awkward leading up to him finally quitting, but it was a long time coming. "Some of his personal struggles, he would bring into the work place and, you know, in a normal environment - where you are not working with your friend who knows what you are capable of - he probably wouldn't have lasted long," Kyle says. Kyle hired Carl when he was down on his luck, having lost his previous sales job. "I wanted to give him that chance, and I think where I get frustrated is when he does talk about feeling blindsided or undervalued or underpaid or under appreciated, I am like, Carl, for most of the time we have worked together it hasn't been smooth sailing," he adds. 'If I am throwing an event in Chicago without Kyle, then I am the face of the brand.' OK? I am literally paying you to do that." "So that logic doesn't line up, neither does him talking about things as if he is the face of the brand," he continues. So it's very clear one of the reasons why Loverboy was like in the backseat, Lindsay was his new priority." ![]() I think entering into the house, it was a subdued version of himself, right? I know Lindsay's a lot to deal with I know he's trying to make her happy, and I know they're navigating living together, and the build-up to his proposal. "Like, that's not what's changed, you know? And yes, I’m well aware that when people are in a relationship it's- I’m not always gonna have 'single Carl' like I used to, but. ![]() "Carl stopped drinking season 5, he was totally sober season 6," Kyle notes. That said, Kyle "wants to remind everybody" that Carl had worked at the company as a sober person for longer than he did while he was drinking. "If he is no longer drinking, and a big part of his job is to go host these events, I can understand and appreciate him not wanting to be around people drinking." "There's multiple factors here, he's brought a lot of them up," Kyle reflects. Kyle says they didn't officially part ways until December after a "long, slow process," which also included Carl reevaluating if his sobriety aligned with working at the brand. ![]() What viewers won't see on season 7 is Carl actually put in his two weeks notice. So, I just let my frustration get the best of me in that moment." "He is an incredible guy, and when he puts his mind to it, he is incredibly capable. "I regret saying , he is absolutely missed," he says. At this point, the whole house is talking about Loverboy." I feel bad for saying that we wouldn't feel his absence. I had reached peak frustration. "I think he was doing a lot of busy work, right? And I think he would be the first to admit it. "He was absolutely checked out," Kyle doubles down. Those frustrations boil over on season 7 in sneak peeks at upcoming episodes, Kyle calls Carl "checked out" and announces to their castmates that he could exit the business, and the brand wouldn't feel any impact. I wanted to give him a chance to formally redefine his role, right? And when he waited a month - while getting a full-time salary to do that - I was frustrated." "By April , I had already tried to bring in a new VP to help run things on the sales and distribution side. "I had sensed, like, right when kind he hit his peak productivity, it was almost like, boom! He started taking a step back," Kyle recalls. ![]()
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